NBC canceled Norm Macdonald’s appearance on “The Tonight Show” Tuesday after he made comments defending several entertainers accused of wrongdoing, including Louis C.K. and Roseanne Barr, and said their victims “didn’t have to go through” what they did.
In an interview with The Hollywood Reporter, Mr. Macdonald, the former “Saturday Night Live” cast member who has a Netflix talk show debuting on Friday, said he was “happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit.” He criticized a lack of “forgiveness” for the performers who had “all their work in their entire life being wiped out in a single day, a moment.”
Louis C.K., a comedian who wrote the forward for Mr. Macdonald’s 2016 book, “Based on a True Story,” was accused of sexual misconduct by five women. Ms. Barr, who gave Mr. Macdonald one of his earliest writing jobs, on “Roseanne,” lost her rebooted show on ABC after a racist tweet in May.
“Roseanne was so broken up that I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that,” he said in the interview. “But she was just so broken and just crying constantly. There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day. Of course, people will go, ‘What about the victims?’ But you know what? The victims didn’t have to go through that.”
(CNN) Norm Macdonald is weathering the fallout from controversial #MeToo comments he made during an interview.
In a recent chat with The Hollywood Reporter the comedian weighed in on the #MeToo movement and the resulting fallout of sexual misconduct accusations.
"I'm happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit," Macdonald said. "It used to be, "One hundred women can't be lying." And then it became, "One woman can't lie." And that became, "I believe all women." And then you're like, "What?" Like, that Chris Hardwick guy I really thought got the blunt end of the stick there."
Hardwick was suspended from his TV hosting gig by AMC after he was accused by an ex-girlfriend of sexual and emotional abuse. He has denied the allegations.
Macdonald also talked about the controversy surrounding his friends Roseanne Barr and Louis C.K.
Norm Macdonald seen at KAABOO 2017 at the Del Mar Racetrack and Fairgrounds on Sept. 16, 2017, in San Diego (Amy Harris/Invision/AP)
Norm Macdonald’s new Netflix show, aptly titled “Norm Macdonald Has a Show,” could very well be a rarity among late-night talk shows hosted by comedians — the hour-long episodes featuring celebrity guests won’t include any political commentary.
“I decided very early on there can be nothing topical,” the Canadian comedian said in an interview with the Hollywood Reporter published Tuesday, adding that late-night hosts have all been “forced” to become “political pundits.”
But his interview, which was meant to promote the show, was quite topical. Touching on a variety of politically charged issues, Macdonald’s controversial opinions on the #MeToo movement, Louis C.K. and Roseanne Barr sparked waves of criticism. His comments appeared to ridicule the movement and victims while voicing support for C.K. and Barr, both of whom are his friends.
In 2017, C.K. admitted to sexual misconduct after five women came forward accusing him. C.K. had all but disappeared from the public eye until he returned to perform again for the first time just last month in New York. According to THR, Macdonald was interviewed “several days” before C.K.’s performance. In May, ABC canceled its popular “Roseanne” reboot after Barr, the show’s star, launched a Twitter attack widely criticized as racist against Valerie Jarrett, a former adviser to President Barack Obama.
“There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day,” said Macdonald, referring to C.K. and Barr. “Of course, people will go, ‘What about the victims?’ But you know what? The victims didn’t have to go through that.”
Soon after the interview was published, Macdonald was trending on social media for all the wrong reasons, getting lambasted for his comments. The widespread backlash prompted the comedian to issue an apology about 10 hours after the interview was published.
“Roseanne and Louis have both been very good friends of mine for many years,” he tweeted. “They both made terrible mistakes and I would never defend their actions. If my words sounded like I was minimizing the pain that their victims feel to this day, I am deeply sorry.”
Roseanne and Louis have both been very good friends of mine for many years. They both made terrible mistakes and I would never defend their actions. If my words sounded like I was minimizing the pain that their victims feel to this day, I am deeply sorry. — Norm Macdonald (@normmacdonald) September 11, 2018
However, his apology did not seem to be enough for “The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon,” which swiftly canceled his scheduled appearance on Tuesday night’s show, an NBC spokesman told The Washington Post in a statement. Macdonald was originally supposed to be part of the guest lineup alongside actor Matthew McConaughey and rapper Future.
“Out of sensitivity to our audience and in light of Norm Macdonald’s comments in the press today, ‘The Tonight Show’ has decided to cancel his appearance on Tuesday’s telecast,” the statement said. According to Variety, the decision was made after Macdonald apologized.
Tuesday’s wide-ranging interview with THR began to snowball after Macdonald brought up the #MeToo movement.
“I’m happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a little bit,” he said. “It used to be, ‘One hundred women can’t be lying.’ And then it became, ‘One woman can’t lie.’ And that became, ‘I believe all women.’ And then you’re like, ‘What?’”
Macdonald added that he felt TV host Chris Hardwick, who was accused of sexual misconduct and suspended from his job earlier this year, “got the blunt end of the stick there.” After completing an internal investigation, AMC announced in July that Hardwick would return as the host of “Talking Dead” and “Talking with Chris Hardwick,” The Post’s Bethonie Butler reported.
He continued, saying, “The model used to be: admit wrongdoing, show complete contrition and then we give you a second chance. Now it’s admit wrongdoing and you’re finished. And so the only way to survive is to deny, deny, deny. That’s not healthy — that there is no forgiveness. I do think that at some point it will end with a completely innocent person of prominence sticking a gun in his head and ending it.”
Macdonald said he knew of two people whose lives and professional careers have been upended after their actions sparked outpourings of criticism: C.K. and Barr. C.K. wrote the foreword for Macdonald’s book, “Based on a True Story,” and Barr hired him as a writer for the original “Roseanne” series.
“Roseanne was so broken up [after her show’s reboot was canceled] that I got Louis to call her, even though Roseanne was very hard on Louis before that,” Macdonald told THR. “But she was just so broken and just crying constantly.”
During that call, the pair gave each other advice and had “a good conversation,” he said.
“There would be no way for me to even understand that advice, because who has ever gone through such a thing?” he said. “All their work in their entire life being wiped out in a single day, a moment.”
When asked whether Barr is racist, Macdonald stood by the actress, saying he’s always known her as “a very left-wing person” who has fought for the representation of “different orientations and religions” on her shows. “She is certainly not a racist,” he said to the publication. “That’s just crazy.”
Long known for his acerbic jokes and deadpan delivery, Macdonald rose to fame as a member of NBC’s “Saturday Night Live” in the ’90s and is credited with creating the show’s first “Celebrity Jeopardy” sketch, in which he famously impersonated the late actor Burt Reynolds.
[Burt Reynolds is part of the reason SNL’s ‘Celebrity Jeopardy’ sketch exists]
On Twitter Tuesday, one user predicted Macdonald was “about to have a very bad day,” and she wasn’t wrong.
The comedian was almost instantly excoriated, his interview becoming a trending moment on Twitter. Critics called the interview, “an absolute mess,” “embarrassing” and “insensitive.”
This Norm Macdonald interview is an absolute mess. Pretty jaw dropping. https://t.co/nvcgYIb9ok pic.twitter.com/dCYRUhJg3O — Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) September 11, 2018
I've always been a big fan of Norm's comedy, but this is pretty embarrassing. like many of his fellow celebrities, Norm has lost touch with the world but still feels licensed to describe it https://t.co/UgUXgJUpBg — Owen Ellickson (@onlxn) September 11, 2018
.@normmacdonald Your statements go beyond being uninformed & insensitive. They damage all survivors & perpetuate a dangerous society where victims don't matter. What we go through is horrific & life changing. Our physical, emotional, financial, etc lives are all affected. #metoo — Sarah Ann Masse (@SarahAnnMasse) September 11, 2018
Even Dictionary.com weighed in, providing a definition for “victim.”
Victim. A person who suffers from a destructive or injurious action. https://t.co/zfO985h4Tf https://t.co/z6VJk2gWJ5 — Dictionary.com (@Dictionarycom) September 11, 2018
Given how quickly major studios have responded to public censure, some questioned if Netflix would still work with Macdonald.
“Norm Macdonald is going to pull off the impressive feat of getting fired from his Netflix show DURING the press tour for it,” one person tweeted.
Norm MacDonald is going to pull off the impressive feat of getting fired from his Netflix show DURING the press tour for it. https://t.co/qd0bTYtu3Y — Roger (@iamtherog) September 11, 2018
But others continued to support the comedian, even using hashtags such as #NormForever.
No issues with what you said. If @netflix cancels your show I cancel my subscription to them. You spoke the truth. Never stop. — Victor (@Victor_Hayler) September 12, 2018
THR reported that Netflix is “planning to move forward with Macdonald’s show as planned.” The show, produced by David Letterman, is set to premiere Friday.
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Comedian Norm Macdonald’s controversial comments about the Me Too movement have cost him an appearance on “The Tonight Show.”
Macdonald was set to appear on the late-night program on Tuesday night, but the plug was pulled after he told The Hollywood Reporter that he was “happy the #MeToo movement has slowed down a bit.”
A “Tonight Show” spokesperson said it “decided to cancel” Macdonald’s appearance in light of his comments in the press and “out of sensitivity to our audience.”
Macdonald sparked further criticism when he defended comedian Louis C.K. (who has admitted sexual misconduct) and actress Roseanne Barr (who ABC fired from the “Roseanne” revival for sending a racist tweet) in the interview.
“There are very few people that have gone through what they have, losing everything in a day,” Macdonald said. “Of course, people will go, ‘What about the victims?’ But you know what? The victims didn’t have to go through that.”
Macdonald later apologized via Twitter:
Roseanne and Louis have both been very good friends of mine for many years. They both made terrible mistakes and I would never defend their actions. If my words sounded like I was minimizing the pain that their victims feel to this day, I am deeply sorry. — Norm Macdonald (@normmacdonald) September 11, 2018
